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Here's the value of faith
Published on April 21, 2008 By OckhamsRazor In Religion

"What?  You didn't think about it at all?"

 

"Well, no.  I mean, I did...but it seemed like everything was already written out.  I was told we just had to believe and everything would be cool."


"Well it is, in a way.  I mean I don't mind you believing in me, but do you have any idea *how* cool life is?  I know I saw a lot of people try to describe it to you..."

 

"But it sounded like they were trying to discount you, sir, and since I believed that belief was the most important thing, I figured you'd be insulted, or something."

 

"No, no, no.  If I didn't want you to think about it, I wouldn't have given you a brain.  Take rabbits.  What do you know about rabbits?"

 

"Rabbits?"

 

"Yeah...you know...long ears, fluffy, cotton tail, etc...?"

 

"Well...uh...they uh....well...not much, really.  They're cute?  Um, a big one comes every easter and leaves eggs in the middle of the night?"


"How about Pine trees.  What do you know about pine trees?"

 

"Well, um...they drop pine cones?  Err...uh...and I rake a lot of needles off my roof..."


"Let me get this straight...am I to believe you worship me, but you don't know anything about my creation?"

 

"Well, there were lots of scientists dealing with all that stuff.  I mean, um...many of them seemed like they didn't want you to be."


"Nonsense...they were just curious...like I made them.  Like you should have been but weren't.  I get the distinct impression that it was never the crackerjacks that amused you - it was just the promise of a prize at the bottom of the box!"

 

"Oh no...oh no sir, that isn't it at all!!"


"And what evidence do I have to believe that?"

 

"Well...I suppose you'll just have to take it on faith."


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on Apr 22, 2008
Now, the guy could either learn everything about the computer all by himself, or he could read a book about it, talk to people about it, learn from you about it... The end result is the same, but the book way will probably go faster.


Actually, people learn a great deal more by doing rather than reading or talking about it. I mean, you can read about how to drive a car...but you really don't know a damn thing until you try it yourself.

~Zoo
on Apr 22, 2008

And that your brain isn't the only thing God gave you.

 

It's the only thing I have that is proven to exist, and it's the only thing I have that is proven to perceive.

on Apr 22, 2008
Practice what you preach,


And to add a bit of sexiness to that:



~Zoo
on Apr 22, 2008

Zoo, you broke my blog.  It works fine under that heinous IE POS, but under Firefox...not so good :/

 

Ah well, screw it.  Let the JU folks deal with it.

on Apr 22, 2008
Chant with me now...

"Who broke it?"

"Zoo broke it!"
on Apr 22, 2008
Zoo, you broke my blog. It works fine under that heinous IE POS, but under Firefox...not so good :/


Oh...sorry. Damn videos and their ability to break things...at least in Firefox.

I tend to prefer the IE POS as my brower.

~Zoo
on Apr 22, 2008

 I rather think it's brilliant.

It is.

Hopefully more people read this than the Crackerjacks article. 

You got to have faith.

on Apr 23, 2008
This is an excerpt from my all-time favorite novel (if you can call it that), Niebla, by Miguel de Unamuno. I'll put the original first, and then translate it myself. (If I was at home, I know my little sister has a translation of it I gave her, but wrong continent, people. So you get to deal with my crappy interpretation of the text.) I think it's especially pertinent to your OP, Ock.

It's a conversation (well, hell, the whole book is either dialogue or monologue) between the main character, Augusto Pérez and his best friend, Víctor Goti. They've been talking about Augusto's doubts about women and their psychology, but it truly reflects Unamunian thinking as a whole. (V for Víctor, A for Augusto, all that jazz.) You'll see why I think this applies, especially in what Victor says.

V--¿No está claro?

A--No; está oscurísimo, muy oscuro.

V--Pues porque está tan oscuro, cásate.

A--Sí, pero... ¡me asaltan tantas dudas!

V--Mejor, pequeño Hamlet, mejor. ¿Dudas?, luego piensas; ¿piensas?, luego eres.

A--Sí, dudar es pensar.

V--Y pensar es dudar y nada más que dudar. Se cree, se sabe, se imagina sin dudar; ni la fe, ni el conocimiento, ni la imaginación suponen duda y hasta la duda los destruye, pero no se piensa sin dudar. Y es la duda lo que de la fe y del conocimiento, que son algo estático, quieto, muerto, hace pensamiento, que es dinámico, inquieto, vivo.


-- Now, to suckily translate:

V: "Isn't it clear?"

A: "No, it's completely darkened, very confused."

V: "Well if it's so dark, just get married already."

A: "Yes, but . . . So many doubts assail me!"

V: "Even better, little Hamlet, even better. You doubt? Then you think. You think? Then you are.

A: "Yes, to doubt is to think."

V: "And thinking is doubting and nothing else. One believes, one knows, one imagines without doubt; but neither faith, nor knowledge, nor imagination have anything to do with doubt, and doubt even destroys them - but you cannot think without doubt. And it is from faith and knowledge, which are static, lifeless, dead, that doubt creates thought, which is dynamic, restless, and alive.



That sums it all up. Faith and knowledge are but tools which, along with doubt, create true thought.

To doubt, to truly doubt, it to begin to truly think.
on Apr 23, 2008
So you get to deal with my crappy interpretation of the text.)


Actually, it's translated pretty well...or so I think anyway. I mean, that's how I would've worded it.


It's pretty damned insightful too. With doubt comes thought. Ask questions and think about it. To accept without asking, without doubting means you're a gullible and blind fool.


~Zoo
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